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	<title>Comments on: Forearm Extensor Muscle Overuse and RSI</title>
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	<description>an RSI sufferer&#039;s thoughts and wisdom</description>
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		<title>By: IanW</title>
		<link>http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/comment-page-1/#comment-6551</link>
		<dc:creator>IanW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 07:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatigued extensor muscles can be symptom of tight flexor muscles. When you type or play the piano, you use the flexor muscles repetitively, which for some reason causes the body to adjust the flexors by shorting them (the same thing can happen for runners who repetitively use the calf muscles). So the weaker extensor works hard to maintain the balance and becomes fatigued. The solution is to the lengthen the flexor muscles by deep massage and stretching (stretching is probably not enough). You have to be careful to avoid messing with the median nerve running down center of the flexor, although some tingling is probably unavoidable. You can also sleep in a position where the flexors are slightly stretched, by putting your hand up against a pillow or wall. For some reason, long-term  half-way stretching seems to work better than 30 second full stretches, at least for this muscle. The extensors should also be stretched and massaged, but if you do the flexors regularly, then extensors will probably end up taking care of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatigued extensor muscles can be symptom of tight flexor muscles. When you type or play the piano, you use the flexor muscles repetitively, which for some reason causes the body to adjust the flexors by shorting them (the same thing can happen for runners who repetitively use the calf muscles). So the weaker extensor works hard to maintain the balance and becomes fatigued. The solution is to the lengthen the flexor muscles by deep massage and stretching (stretching is probably not enough). You have to be careful to avoid messing with the median nerve running down center of the flexor, although some tingling is probably unavoidable. You can also sleep in a position where the flexors are slightly stretched, by putting your hand up against a pillow or wall. For some reason, long-term  half-way stretching seems to work better than 30 second full stretches, at least for this muscle. The extensors should also be stretched and massaged, but if you do the flexors regularly, then extensors will probably end up taking care of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shirley,

Rest (from computers, high tech gadgets , phones, in fact anything that involves small clicks - hard these days I know) would be beneficial.
I&#039;d also see your doctor and get advice on taking some anti inflammatories. I&#039;d also see a physio (you may have to hunt around for a good one) get some ultrasound
and massage on the forearm extensor muscles (most likely to be causing your finger pain). You should also try not to panic, stress is a trigger for tension which is a trigger
for RSI pain. You also need to get an ergonomic assessment done. Your employer has a responsibility to provide you with a safe ergonomic setup. It is most likely that
your injury happened because of a combination of bad ergonomics with an extended period of typing in a stressful environment with minimal breaks. From an ergonomic point of view, I expect &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/typing-with-clawed-hands/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the claw&lt;/a&gt;&#039; may have come into play too, so its important when you go back to work not to use any un-ergonomic practices that led you to this injury.
You also need to religiously take breaks when working, introduce stretches and small micro breaks from typing, get up and move around more. There are break reminders available for free download.
If your job involves text input (rather than say programming commands) then consider a voice recognition system. Also consider a physical pastime that gets your arms moving better like swimming , kayaking or yoga.
Also read over my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi-faq/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAQ section&lt;/a&gt; and &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/breaking-the-rsi-pain-cycle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;breaking the RSI pain cycle&lt;/a&gt;&#039; sections here (if you havn&#039;t already).
Keep in mind that you have caught it early, and hence you have the best chance of doing something about it. 

Best wishes.
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shirley,</p>
<p>Rest (from computers, high tech gadgets , phones, in fact anything that involves small clicks &#8211; hard these days I know) would be beneficial.<br />
I&#8217;d also see your doctor and get advice on taking some anti inflammatories. I&#8217;d also see a physio (you may have to hunt around for a good one) get some ultrasound<br />
and massage on the forearm extensor muscles (most likely to be causing your finger pain). You should also try not to panic, stress is a trigger for tension which is a trigger<br />
for RSI pain. You also need to get an ergonomic assessment done. Your employer has a responsibility to provide you with a safe ergonomic setup. It is most likely that<br />
your injury happened because of a combination of bad ergonomics with an extended period of typing in a stressful environment with minimal breaks. From an ergonomic point of view, I expect &#8216;<a href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/typing-with-clawed-hands/" rel="nofollow">the claw</a>&#8216; may have come into play too, so its important when you go back to work not to use any un-ergonomic practices that led you to this injury.<br />
You also need to religiously take breaks when working, introduce stretches and small micro breaks from typing, get up and move around more. There are break reminders available for free download.<br />
If your job involves text input (rather than say programming commands) then consider a voice recognition system. Also consider a physical pastime that gets your arms moving better like swimming , kayaking or yoga.<br />
Also read over my <a href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi-faq/" rel="nofollow">FAQ section</a> and &#8216;<a href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/breaking-the-rsi-pain-cycle/" rel="nofollow">breaking the RSI pain cycle</a>&#8216; sections here (if you havn&#8217;t already).<br />
Keep in mind that you have caught it early, and hence you have the best chance of doing something about it. </p>
<p>Best wishes.<br />
Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I have as recently as 8 weeks ago been suffering chronic pain in my upper forearm, wrist and fingers, it came on after a really extensive period of typing as I cleared my desk to go on holiday.  I thought the three week reest would do it good - but it returned as soon as I started typing again.  So, after reading these comments I realise I have an rsi injury.  If I completelyrest this arm and like do NOTHING for a couple of months - willmy arm recover?  I would really appreciate your comments/observations.  I have found all t he commentson this site to be themost helpful so far - thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; I have as recently as 8 weeks ago been suffering chronic pain in my upper forearm, wrist and fingers, it came on after a really extensive period of typing as I cleared my desk to go on holiday.  I thought the three week reest would do it good &#8211; but it returned as soon as I started typing again.  So, after reading these comments I realise I have an rsi injury.  If I completelyrest this arm and like do NOTHING for a couple of months &#8211; willmy arm recover?  I would really appreciate your comments/observations.  I have found all t he commentson this site to be themost helpful so far &#8211; thanks</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guy,

I&#039;m glad to hear this works for you. You are fortunate that you caught it in time and made those adjustments required to your working practice.
RSI need not be a career destroyer if it&#039;s recognised at an early enough stage.
There are many more of us out there that took too long to discover those adjustments, and are now in a more permanent state of RSI pain.
The education of the small adjustments need to take place at an early stage of our lives ie. in schools.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear this works for you. You are fortunate that you caught it in time and made those adjustments required to your working practice.<br />
RSI need not be a career destroyer if it&#8217;s recognised at an early enough stage.<br />
There are many more of us out there that took too long to discover those adjustments, and are now in a more permanent state of RSI pain.<br />
The education of the small adjustments need to take place at an early stage of our lives ie. in schools.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My condition has gotten better! I&#039;ve been using an innexpensive Microsoft keyboard that is split and the keys are angled. I also pull the keyboard closer to my body whenever possible to minimize my reach. I take purposeful breaks from typing during the day, try to be &quot;kinder&quot; to the keys instead of banging on them, and I occasionally massage my forearm.  All these efforts seem to be working for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My condition has gotten better! I&#8217;ve been using an innexpensive Microsoft keyboard that is split and the keys are angled. I also pull the keyboard closer to my body whenever possible to minimize my reach. I take purposeful breaks from typing during the day, try to be &#8220;kinder&#8221; to the keys instead of banging on them, and I occasionally massage my forearm.  All these efforts seem to be working for me.</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Landon,

I havn&#039;t tried acupuncture for this condition. I was offered it a few years back, but didn&#039;t like the thought of it more than anything.
Recently I have had some for other ailments, with some success. I may get around to trying it for my RSI at some stage.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Landon,</p>
<p>I havn&#8217;t tried acupuncture for this condition. I was offered it a few years back, but didn&#8217;t like the thought of it more than anything.<br />
Recently I have had some for other ailments, with some success. I may get around to trying it for my RSI at some stage.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Landon</title>
		<link>http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/comment-page-1/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator>Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if anyone has tried acupuncture to help treat RSI. This has been suggested to me from several massage therapists and people who have had the treatment, but I don&#039;t want to spring a check for something that costly if others have tried with no success?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if anyone has tried acupuncture to help treat RSI. This has been suggested to me from several massage therapists and people who have had the treatment, but I don&#8217;t want to spring a check for something that costly if others have tried with no success?</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guy,

there is no universal solution that fits everyone. Everyone is built differently. Advice from a professional ergonomist is required to find out what will suit you. In my case (before I gave up my full time job anyway) I was using a drop down (fully adjustable) keyboard platform by Humanscale, a straight keyboard but with my wrists trained to neutral  and a Contour roller mouse. If you check through my other posts on the site you will get more info. Try ergo equipment out before buying and please get some advice from an ergonomist. There are a lot of factors that can cause RSI, and everyone is different, so there will be different answers to your question from everyone who has gone through this.  You also need to look at exposure and workload as well as other factors. Remember you can be sat in the most ergonomic chair at the most ergonomic desk with the most ergonomic mouse and keyboard and still be at risk of RSI if you don&#039;t use them properly. Especially if you don&#039;t ensure your posture is good. Sorry for the vague answer, but it happens to be the truth.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guy,</p>
<p>there is no universal solution that fits everyone. Everyone is built differently. Advice from a professional ergonomist is required to find out what will suit you. In my case (before I gave up my full time job anyway) I was using a drop down (fully adjustable) keyboard platform by Humanscale, a straight keyboard but with my wrists trained to neutral  and a Contour roller mouse. If you check through my other posts on the site you will get more info. Try ergo equipment out before buying and please get some advice from an ergonomist. There are a lot of factors that can cause RSI, and everyone is different, so there will be different answers to your question from everyone who has gone through this.  You also need to look at exposure and workload as well as other factors. Remember you can be sat in the most ergonomic chair at the most ergonomic desk with the most ergonomic mouse and keyboard and still be at risk of RSI if you don&#8217;t use them properly. Especially if you don&#8217;t ensure your posture is good. Sorry for the vague answer, but it happens to be the truth.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Landon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone here heard of or tried prolotherapy treatments or trigger point therapy? I went to physical therapy as mentioned above for about three months and it didn&#039;t work, so I am looking towards more &quot;alternative&quot; types of treatment and medicine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone here heard of or tried prolotherapy treatments or trigger point therapy? I went to physical therapy as mentioned above for about three months and it didn&#8217;t work, so I am looking towards more &#8220;alternative&#8221; types of treatment and medicine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What keyboard setups (wrist pad, ergonomic or split keyboard, etc.) have been preferred by people with forearm stress?</description>
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