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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/comment-page-1/#comment-15460</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Craig, 
I am sorry but I cannot tell you what the pressure of the jet is but it is a strong one. That is why I suggested you may want to adjust the distance of your arm accordingly. I can tell you that I place my arm away just enough to feel like I am getting a good message. The temp in the hot tub is set at 104 which is wonderful! My mother lives in a gated retirement community and I am using their hot tub. It is a good one!

Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig,<br />
I am sorry but I cannot tell you what the pressure of the jet is but it is a strong one. That is why I suggested you may want to adjust the distance of your arm accordingly. I can tell you that I place my arm away just enough to feel like I am getting a good message. The temp in the hot tub is set at 104 which is wonderful! My mother lives in a gated retirement community and I am using their hot tub. It is a good one!</p>
<p>Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/comment-page-1/#comment-15438</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian,
Thank you for your advice. You&#039;ll understand I&#039;m highly sceptical of such treatments as the way I see it if your muscles are damaged, your muscles are damaged. I will however have a look at the first book you linked with an open mind.

But is there anything practical in it? I can&#039;t see it suddenly fixing me due to some realisation. Is there some form of mental exercise? 

I will report back to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian,<br />
Thank you for your advice. You&#8217;ll understand I&#8217;m highly sceptical of such treatments as the way I see it if your muscles are damaged, your muscles are damaged. I will however have a look at the first book you linked with an open mind.</p>
<p>But is there anything practical in it? I can&#8217;t see it suddenly fixing me due to some realisation. Is there some form of mental exercise? </p>
<p>I will report back to all.</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraser,

the trigger point massage is is the only effective release for knotted muscle areas. Other methods just relieve symptoms.
It really does boil down to whether you have knotted trigger points or not. The book is an excellent reference. There may be other things going on with your elbows though, and I&#039;m no expert on elbow pain.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraser,</p>
<p>the trigger point massage is is the only effective release for knotted muscle areas. Other methods just relieve symptoms.<br />
It really does boil down to whether you have knotted trigger points or not. The book is an excellent reference. There may be other things going on with your elbows though, and I&#8217;m no expert on elbow pain.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/comment-page-1/#comment-15417</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan., thank you for your response. I have checked my triceps and I can&#039;t find anything, the spots are only on my forearm although the back of my neck is a bit tight.

How much did the trigger point therapy achieve for you? I&#039;m considering massaging the points 6 times a day if it really is worth it. But in all honesty, has your condition improved substantially? I will also need to avoid the radial nerve, is there any clear indicator for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan., thank you for your response. I have checked my triceps and I can&#8217;t find anything, the spots are only on my forearm although the back of my neck is a bit tight.</p>
<p>How much did the trigger point therapy achieve for you? I&#8217;m considering massaging the points 6 times a day if it really is worth it. But in all honesty, has your condition improved substantially? I will also need to avoid the radial nerve, is there any clear indicator for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraser, and everyone else, please for the love of God read these two books by Dr. Sarno

I came here last year and never got better after spending thousands of dollars on therapy and doctors. I saw about 9 doctors and a dozen physical therapists, none of which even suggested that RSI might be psychosomatic (mind-body). It was. All chronic injuries are.

This is the article which convinced me to read Dr. Sarno&#039;s books. As soon as I did, I KNEW he was right. It was so many things, my personality profile, the fact that the pain comes and goes, that it moves around.

http://aaroniba.net/articles/tmp/how-i-cured-my-rsi-pain.html

Read this first and then get the books. Have an open mind, and get your lives back.
I stopped coming here, but I forgot to unsubscibe, and just had to reply to your posts.

My favorite quote from one of the books is:

&quot;Consider that a fracture of the largest bone in the body, the femur, takes 6 weeks to heal and it will be stronger at the injury site than it was before. We are not made of paper mache, we are strong and resilliant, and the product of millions of years of evolution&quot;

Injuries don&#039;t just &quot;not heal&quot;. It&#039;s pyschosomatic. All human beings have pyshosomatic sypmthoms, it&#039;s part of the human condition. It may be just tension headaches for some, or full blown fibromyalgia for others. People have taken their lives, it can get that bad.

This process, this thing is the stupidest thing ever. All I had to do was meditate and conquer my anger and my fears over the past 3 months. It&#039;s gone.

http://www.amazon.com/Mindbody-Prescription-Healing-Body-Pain/dp/0446675156/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1326203576&amp;sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Divided-Mind-Epidemic-Mindbody-Disorders/dp/0061174300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1326203270&amp;sr=8-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraser, and everyone else, please for the love of God read these two books by Dr. Sarno</p>
<p>I came here last year and never got better after spending thousands of dollars on therapy and doctors. I saw about 9 doctors and a dozen physical therapists, none of which even suggested that <a href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/category/rsi/">RSI</a> might be psychosomatic (mind-body). It was. All chronic injuries are.</p>
<p>This is the article which convinced me to read Dr. Sarno&#8217;s books. As soon as I did, I KNEW he was right. It was so many things, my personality profile, the fact that the pain comes and goes, that it moves around.</p>
<p><a href="http://aaroniba.net/articles/tmp/how-i-cured-my-rsi-pain.html" rel="nofollow">http://aaroniba.net/articles/tmp/how-i-cured-my-rsi-pain.html</a></p>
<p>Read this first and then get the books. Have an open mind, and get your lives back.<br />
I stopped coming here, but I forgot to unsubscibe, and just had to reply to your posts.</p>
<p>My favorite quote from one of the books is:</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider that a fracture of the largest bone in the body, the femur, takes 6 weeks to heal and it will be stronger at the injury site than it was before. We are not made of paper mache, we are strong and resilliant, and the product of millions of years of evolution&#8221;</p>
<p>Injuries don&#8217;t just &#8220;not heal&#8221;. It&#8217;s pyschosomatic. All human beings have pyshosomatic sypmthoms, it&#8217;s part of the human condition. It may be just tension headaches for some, or full blown fibromyalgia for others. People have taken their lives, it can get that bad.</p>
<p>This process, this thing is the stupidest thing ever. All I had to do was meditate and conquer my anger and my fears over the past 3 months. It&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mindbody-Prescription-Healing-Body-Pain/dp/0446675156/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1326203576&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Mindbody-Prescription-Healing-Body-Pain/dp/0446675156/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1326203576&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Divided-Mind-Epidemic-Mindbody-Disorders/dp/0061174300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1326203270&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Divided-Mind-Epidemic-Mindbody-Disorders/dp/0061174300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1326203270&#038;sr=8-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fraser,

Sorry to hear about your elbows. Having had some elbow issues recently, I can sympathise. Have you tried looking at trigger point therapy? You can fins that pain gets referred into the elbow from elsewhere eg tight/knotted triceps. Check the triceps out and see if there are any very sore spots in the muscles there. You can see this diagrammatically in the Trigger Point Therapy Workbook by Claire Davies. I&#039;d also do some activity that involves big arm motion like swimming to loosen all those tendons and muscles that may be causing tightness in the elbow. I also can sympathise with your GP experience, it&#039;s very common for GPs or consultants to not know much about repetitive strain injuries.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fraser,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your elbows. Having had some elbow issues recently, I can sympathise. Have you tried looking at trigger point therapy? You can fins that pain gets referred into the elbow from elsewhere eg tight/knotted triceps. Check the triceps out and see if there are any very sore spots in the muscles there. You can see this diagrammatically in the Trigger Point Therapy Workbook by Claire Davies. I&#8217;d also do some activity that involves big arm motion like swimming to loosen all those tendons and muscles that may be causing tightness in the elbow. I also can sympathise with your GP experience, it&#8217;s very common for GPs or consultants to not know much about repetitive strain injuries.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 24 and I&#039;ve had a serious problem with elbow pain for 2 years now, and yet I can&#039;t relate to any of you at all. You speak as if it&#039;s an annoyance, something that bothers you. When mine started to really hurt I stopped, I havn&#039;t typed for the past 2 years. I don&#039;t understand how people can work with this thus, mine must be either completely different or very severe. 

There are sore spots a few inches down from my elbow joint which flare up VERY quickly when I type, write, or wiggle my fingers. It is THAT sensitive. I&#039;ve tried a ton of rest and achieved nothing. They suggested I might have radial tunnel syndrome so I had surgery for that, did nothing.

I have it in both arms, it has destroyed my life and I can&#039;t STAND how everyone seems to think it&#039;s some minor convinience. For god&#039;s sake what the hell is this thing that no-one else seems to have, at least no this badly. I&#039;m typing this with my toes, that&#039;s how ridiculous this whole situation is, I did an entire Masters in computer science with my feet last year ffs and got the top grade. And what have I achieved? Nothing, fricking nothing, and no one seems to care or give a damn. I don&#039;t blame them, but I can&#039;t bare this relaxed approach the doctors take. &quot;Oh take these pain killers and go away for a month.&quot; Go away for a month and do what? I can&#039;t do anything!

I am 24, I&#039;m losing my friends, I can&#039;t find work with this, people are probably getting bored of me because I&#039;m FORCED to bring it up all the time when they ask why I can&#039;t do something. I hate being defined by it. I loved my life and I just want it back, please can someone out there juist take this horrific completely undeserved thing away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 24 and I&#8217;ve had a serious problem with elbow pain for 2 years now, and yet I can&#8217;t relate to any of you at all. You speak as if it&#8217;s an annoyance, something that bothers you. When mine started to really hurt I stopped, I havn&#8217;t typed for the past 2 years. I don&#8217;t understand how people can work with this thus, mine must be either completely different or very severe. </p>
<p>There are sore spots a few inches down from my elbow joint which flare up VERY quickly when I type, write, or wiggle my fingers. It is THAT sensitive. I&#8217;ve tried a ton of rest and achieved nothing. They suggested I might have radial tunnel syndrome so I had surgery for that, did nothing.</p>
<p>I have it in both arms, it has destroyed my life and I can&#8217;t STAND how everyone seems to think it&#8217;s some minor convinience. For god&#8217;s sake what the hell is this thing that no-one else seems to have, at least no this badly. I&#8217;m typing this with my toes, that&#8217;s how ridiculous this whole situation is, I did an entire Masters in computer science with my feet last year ffs and got the top grade. And what have I achieved? Nothing, fricking nothing, and no one seems to care or give a damn. I don&#8217;t blame them, but I can&#8217;t bare this relaxed approach the doctors take. &#8220;Oh take these pain killers and go away for a month.&#8221; Go away for a month and do what? I can&#8217;t do anything!</p>
<p>I am 24, I&#8217;m losing my friends, I can&#8217;t find work with this, people are probably getting bored of me because I&#8217;m FORCED to bring it up all the time when they ask why I can&#8217;t do something. I hate being defined by it. I loved my life and I just want it back, please can someone out there juist take this horrific completely undeserved thing away.</p>
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		<title>By: craig jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi joan,


I have exactly the same problem, could you let me know what what jet pressure gadget you have for doing this please?

many thanks Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi joan,</p>
<p>I have exactly the same problem, could you let me know what what jet pressure gadget you have for doing this please?</p>
<p>many thanks Craig</p>
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		<title>By: alanf</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joan,

thanks for sharing, have felt the pressure from inlet valves at swimming pools, so I imaging you could get a good massage from a jet of water. It will give a good massage as well as heat the area, promoting blood flow, and in your case some pain relief. I don&#039;t have access to a hot tub otherwise I&#039;d give that a try for a while.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joan,</p>
<p>thanks for sharing, have felt the pressure from inlet valves at swimming pools, so I imaging you could get a good massage from a jet of water. It will give a good massage as well as heat the area, promoting blood flow, and in your case some pain relief. I don&#8217;t have access to a hot tub otherwise I&#8217;d give that a try for a while.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have developed chronic pain over the Extensor carpus radialis longus as a result of lifting boxes incorrectly. I did this daily for a period of 3 months and am now paying the price. I have been dealing with this for more than a year now. I did go to the dr and was given anti-inflams and have attempted to resolve by self message, rest, ice, heat and arm wrap. These are only temporary fixes and the pain never completely goes away and always returns worse than ever. I try to use my non-injured arm more but am noticing it is beginning to hurt too. Go figure! Recently, I began using a hot tub with powerful jets. I put my injured arm about a foot away from the jet for a good message. Depending on the power of the jet you may need to adjust where you place your arm. Too close and you may bruise your skin (did that!).  I only do this for about 15 minutes a day. The next day the pain is completely gone! I mean gone! It only comes back if I begin using it more than I should. I am hot-tubbing it every other day and can really feel relief. Don&#039;t know if this will take it away permenantly but it is worth a try and really helps.  I am by no means a doctor and not giving advice, only sharing what is working for me. Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have developed chronic pain over the Extensor carpus radialis longus as a result of lifting boxes incorrectly. I did this daily for a period of 3 months and am now paying the price. I have been dealing with this for more than a year now. I did go to the dr and was given anti-inflams and have attempted to resolve by self message, rest, ice, heat and arm wrap. These are only temporary fixes and the pain never completely goes away and always returns worse than ever. I try to use my non-injured arm more but am noticing it is beginning to hurt too. Go figure! Recently, I began using a hot tub with powerful jets. I put my injured arm about a foot away from the jet for a good message. Depending on the power of the jet you may need to adjust where you place your arm. Too close and you may bruise your skin (did that!).  I only do this for about 15 minutes a day. The next day the pain is completely gone! I mean gone! It only comes back if I begin using it more than I should. I am hot-tubbing it every other day and can really feel relief. Don&#8217;t know if this will take it away permenantly but it is worth a try and really helps.  I am by no means a doctor and not giving advice, only sharing what is working for me. Joan</p>
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