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		<title>Forearm extensor muscles, wrist position and RSI</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you position your hands at a keyboard as discussed in an earlier article referring to &#8216;typing with clawed hands&#8217;, bad positioning of the wrist can lead to overuse injuries caused by strain in your forearm extensor muscles.
The common position for hands hovering above a keyboard is as shown on the right, which I refer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you position your hands at a keyboard as discussed in <a title="typing with clawed hands" href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/typing-with-clawed-hands/" target="_blank">an earlier article referring to &#8216;typing with clawed hands&#8217;</a>, bad positioning of the wrist can lead to <a title="overuse of Forearm extensor muscle pain" href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscle-overuse-and-rsi/" target="_blank">overuse injuries caused by strain in your forearm extensor muscles</a>.</p>
<p><img title="clawed_hands_rsi_sm.jpg" src="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/clawed_hands_rsi_sm.jpg" alt="clawed_hands_rsi_sm.jpg" align="right" />The common position for hands hovering above a keyboard is as shown on the right, which I refer to as the &#8216;claw&#8217;. This position elevates the tension in the aforementioned extensor muscles, causing them to become fatigued over prolonged periods of time. Typing whilst the hand/wrists are in this position (another common posture mistake) will further<span id="more-51"></span> increase the muscle and tendon stresses making the situation worse.</p>
<p><img title="level_hand_position_sm.jpg" src="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/level_hand_position_sm.jpg" alt="level_hand_position_sm.jpg" align="right" /></p>
<p>What may not be so obvious is that moving the wrists into a more neutral &#8216;level&#8217;  position (see image) can still create enough continual tension in the forearm extensor muscles. This is not always apparent unless, like me, you already have a bad RSI condition and can notice the pain in already injured muscles.</p>
<p>This is a much better position than the &#8216;claw&#8217;, and the forearm extensors are far less tense. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">They are however still in tension</span> which may lead to forearm extensor fatigue when held in this manner for long periods of time eg 6-8 hours a day hovering your hands over a keyboard at work.</p>
<p><img title="neutral_hand_position_sm.jpg" src="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/neutral_hand_position_sm.jpg" alt="neutral_hand_position_sm.jpg" align="right" /></p>
<p>The final image on the right shows a &#8216;hanging&#8217; wrist position which, if adopted, places minimal stress on the forearm extensors, (they should in fact be relaxed in this position), and is a good posture to aim for when typing. You can then utilise the weight of your hands and fingers to type, lifting the arms from the shoulders and elbows instead of placing the burden on the forearm extensors and associated tendons.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even need to be at a keyboard to try out these different wrist angles. Just hold your hands in these positions for 2 minutes and observe the different tensions in the forearm extensor muscles. Start to imagine what it is like for your body to hold this tension for up to 8 hours a day at a computer, and ask yourself whether it may be more beneficial if you changed your posture to one that has far less muscle/tendon tension in it.</p>
<p>Note: In order to successfully utilise the &#8216;hanging&#8217; wrist position you will most likely need an ergonomic computer set up with a drop down keyboard tray, perhaps even an adjustable position keyboard tray.</p>
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		<title>Forearm Extensor Muscle Overuse and RSI</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[RSI symptoms are very often the result of extremely tight (overused) forearm extensor muscles. These muscles are located in the upper forearm region. They are used to raise the wrist and fingers,  which is the primary motion involved in unergonomic keyboard and mouse driven activities.
The symptoms have been described by a few physicians to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSI symptoms are very often the result of extremely tight (overused) forearm extensor muscles. These muscles are located in the upper forearm region. They are used to raise the wrist and fingers,  which is the primary motion involved in unergonomic keyboard and mouse driven activities.</p>
<p>The symptoms have been described by a few physicians to me as <a title="Tennis Elbow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_elbow" target="_blank">tennis elbow</a> like in nature. The tight and spasming extensor muscles and tendons end up being over used, and don&#8217;t get the chance to recover. This leaves them in a permanently fatigued state, tightly tensioning the forearm tendons to which the extensor muscles are attached, causing referred pain down the tight tendons into the hands and fingers.</p>
<p><img title="forearm_extensor_400.jpg" src="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/forearm_extensor_400.jpg" alt="forearm_extensor_400.jpg" align="absmiddle" /></p>
<p>You can do a check to see how fatigued your forearm extensor muscles are. Using your left hand to check your right forearm extensor muscles press down firmly with the thumb onto the upper forearm extensor muscles (see image below), move the position of the thumb slightly over these muscles and check for pain. Repeat the diagnosis with the left arm extensor muscles and your right thumb.<span id="more-25"></span></p>
<p><img title="forearm_extensor_massage_400.jpg" src="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/forearm_extensor_massage_400.jpg" alt="forearm_extensor_massage_400.jpg" align="absmiddle" /></p>
<p>If you are in any doubt about what these muscles do, press your thumb on your arm as above and raise your wrist up as if you were about to type. Also raise and wiggle your fingers. With your thumb, you should be able to feel your extensor muscles tightening as your wrist and fingers raise.</p>
<p>If you find the extensor muscles to be in pain with the above procedure then these muscles are fatigued. It also means that ergonomically, you are not using your keyboard properly and are probably typing using <a title="typing with clawed hands" href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/typing-with-clawed-hands/">the claw</a>, which causes this type of problem. This type of condition is one of the most common mechanisms for RSI pain, but can easily be addressed by changing the way you type.</p>
<p>If you are experiencing pain in these muscles, it is time to try to relieve them which can be done by massage, icing and rest. Consult your doctor or a trained physiotherapist to find out the best techniques which may include ultrasound. It is also time to re-assess your typing technique otherwise you may be placing yourself at risk of an RSI type condition. This may send the forearm extensor muscles into a more permanently fatigued state, from which recovery may be difficult, and in some extreme cases may be impossible.</p>
<p>In my own case, forearm muscle fatigue is the primary mechanism for my RSI pain. Unfortunately for me, I learned of the prevention techniques several years after my symptoms began, when these symptoms had already become more permanent. To this day I still have not been able to understand what condition these misused muscles are in, but I suspect permanent damage. I do however still get some much needed temporary pain relief these days from massage of the forearm extensor muscles and tendons, just not very lasting , but my injury is after all a long term one.</p>
<p>See also my <a title="forearm extensor overuse injuries and wrist position" href="http://www.ergomatters.co.uk/blog/rsi/forearm-extensor-muscles-wrist-position-and-rsi/">other article on forearm extensor muscle overuse and wrist positions</a>.</p>
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